[🇮🇷] Iranian Chill Corner

[ThunderCat]

Those non- deity religions like woke cultures do not subjugate societies like ours. There are strong oppositions in the western societies to keep them at bay. We don't have any critical opposition in Pakistan against religious extremism. People will simply die if they do it. Even Imran Khan made alliances with extreme religious elements. Religion is a business and power tool in our country.

Denying the Holocaust is a crime in many Western countries. Denying the Holocaust in front of many Westerners sets them off easily. There clearly is dictatorship. They also visit Holocaust museums like religious pilgrims.

In Marxist countries people were imprisoned and killed for opposing the state and/or Marxist ideology. Not that I am excusing the religious extremism in our country.

 

[Old School]

Denying the Holocaust is a crime in many Western countries. Denying the Holocaust in front of many Westerners sets them off easily. There clearly is dictatorship. They also visit Holocaust museums like religious pilgrims.

In Marxist countries people were imprisoned and killed for opposing the state and/or Marxist ideology. Not that I am excusing the religious extremism in our country.

The people also overthrew and hanged Communist leaders like Chausescu. Those countries have a strong criticism of their own. Holocaust supporters are many in some society and it is not a crime to support the holocaust either. We do not have opposition in our country or any other religious countries. Nothing can be compared with our dysfunctional society, as any opposition to religious authority is brutally crushed, or public lynching takes place in front of inactive police. We should not use whataboutism to say what about that country. I am shocked to see, especially, our UK community, which is also now full of zombies in constant denial. Then, we wonder why there is a phobia.

 

[ThunderCat]

The people also overthrew and hanged Communist leaders like Chausescu. Those countries have a strong criticism of their own. Holocaust supporters are many in some society and it is not a crime to support the holocaust either. We do not have opposition in our country or any other religious countries. Nothing can be compared with our dysfunctional society, as any opposition to religious authority is brutally crushed, or public lynching takes place in front of inactive police. We should not use whataboutism to say what about that country. I am shocked to see, especially, our UK community, which is also now full of zombies in constant denial. Then, we wonder why there is a phobia.

There has been, but it hasn't been strong enough. Remember our people never elected a religious administration. But General Zia infected our country with an extreme Wahabbi ideology.

I am not defending it. But this has to be understood while taking into account human social and psychological history. Human belief systems are commonly dogmatic.

Denying the Holocaust is still taboo in most Western countries and even illegal in others. I can even provide a quote on how the Holocaust has taken a position as a religion.

The West is degrading because of political correctness and new religious dogma. People don't criticize dogmas in the West because of political correctness and that's what the problem is with us.

Many non-European migrants including Muslim extremists exploit this political correctness.

We fear our religious mobs and their massive numbers and total disregard for the law.

 

[Aryobarzan]

The sooner Pakistan becomes a "Secular" nation the faster she will walk in the path of progress. Islamic Republic as a governing idea has failed miserably both in Pakistan and Iran. There is no reason why Pakistan can not do what already has started by India. You got the brains (West Asia first nuclear power and first to start space activity when everyone else was sleep in this area).
As for Iran my prediction is that within the next decade Iran will again be a "secular " nation but more important this time around Iran will also be a non- muslim nation with a small muslim minority population.
Hopefully the mullah crowd in Iran would also disappear from Iranian landscape after them appearing in the Iranian history only 500 years ago . Mullahs have always played a negative and destructive role in Iranian history. They were always considered "parasitic" entity and tools of foreign nations to impose their will on Iran. Invented 500 years ago by the Safavid shahs to control the population and later used by British to keep Iranian population from Progress..

 

[Old School]

There has been, but it hasn't been strong enough. Remember our people never elected a religious administration. But General Zia infected our country with an extreme Wahabbi ideology.

I am not defending it. But this has to be understood while taking into account human social and psychological history. Human belief systems are commonly dogmatic.

Denying the Holocaust is still taboo in most Western countries and even illegal in others. I can even provide a quote on how the Holocaust has taken a position as a religion.

The West is degrading because of political correctness and new religious dogma. People don't criticize dogmas in the West because of political correctness and that's what the problem is with us.

Many non-European migrants including Muslim extremists exploit this political correctness.

We fear our religious mobs and their massive numbers and total disregard for the law.

Just look what ‘Londonistan’ now looks like. UK is going to be the first failed state among the core Western elite nations. What goes around, comes around.

 

[Old School]

The sooner Pakistan becomes a "Secular" nation the faster she will walk in the path of progress. Islamic Republic as a governing idea has failed miserably both in Pakistan and Iran. There is no reason why Pakistan can not do what already has started by India. You got the brains (West Asia first nuclear power and first to start space activity when everyone else was sleep in this area).
As for Iran my prediction is that within the next decade Iran will again be a "secular " nation but more important this time around Iran will also be a non- muslim nation with a small muslim minority population.
Hopefully the mullah crowd in Iran would also disappear from Iranian landscape after them appearing in the Iranian history only 500 years ago . Mullahs have always played a negative and destructive role in Iranian history. They were always considered "parasitic" entity and tools of foreign nations to impose their will on Iran. Invented 500 years ago by the Safavid shahs to control the population and later used by British to keep Iranian population from Progress..

The British cultivated and nurtured the mullah parasites to control the population everywhere. Now, when the same mullahs turned the UK into Londonistan and came to their UK heartland to bite, dumb British are crying. What a Frankenstein’s monster!!

 

[ThunderCat]

The sooner Pakistan becomes a "Secular" nation the faster she will walk in the path of progress. Islamic Republic as a governing idea has failed miserably both in Pakistan and Iran. There is no reason why Pakistan can not do what already has started by India. You got the brains (West Asia first nuclear power and first to start space activity when everyone else was sleep in this area).
As for Iran my prediction is that within the next decade Iran will again be a "secular " nation but more important this time around Iran will also be a non- muslim nation with a small muslim minority population.
Hopefully the mullah crowd in Iran would also disappear from Iranian landscape after them appearing in the Iranian history only 500 years ago . Mullahs have always played a negative and destructive role in Iranian history. They were always considered "parasitic" entity and tools of foreign nations to impose their will on Iran. Invented 500 years ago by the Safavid shahs to control the population and later used by British to keep Iranian population from Progress..

This is also why I hope an anti-mullah revolution in Iran will happen so that it will encourage secular Pakistanis to break the grip of the mullahs. I don't consider India a role model of secularism.

All those BJP and other Brahman fascists voted into office.

 

[Mkesath]

Personally I believe Pakistan should be an Islamic country, otherwise what was the point of partition?
If you want to live in a "secular" country you can go right to India then.

india isnt a secular nation

 

[ThunderCat]

Personally I believe Pakistan should be an Islamic country, otherwise what was the point of partition?
If you want to live in a "secular" country you can go right to India then.

'Partition' of what? You still not done with your trolling. This is what you come here to do troll. Bugger off then.

 

[Old School]

@Muji.Iqbal Do not post in this section anymore. You can participate in other sections.

 

[Lulldapull]

I believe the notion that India was never really a united country. It was a very tribal land mass with 400 million tribal jungli people with not much in common with each other. The British really governed/ exploited these people for a good 150 years and the colonial gimmicks/ racism convinced the hindus that India was always a nation going back billions of years.....lol

 

[Old School]

I believe the notion that India was never really a united country. It was a very tribal land mass with 400 million tribal jungli people with not much in common with each other. The British really governed/ exploited these people for a good 150 years and the colonial gimmicks/ racism convinced the hindus that India was always a nation going back billions of years.....lol

We have always been pre-occupied with what India is and isn't while forgetting how we have to rebuild Pakistan. A fully blind is unlikely to get back vision by saying the neighbor has only one eye !

 

[Lulldapull]

The sooner Pakistan becomes a "Secular" nation the faster she will walk in the path of progress. Islamic Republic as a governing idea has failed miserably both in Pakistan and Iran. There is no reason why Pakistan can not do what already has started by India. You got the brains (West Asia first nuclear power and first to start space activity when everyone else was sleep in this area).
As for Iran my prediction is that within the next decade Iran will again be a "secular " nation but more important this time around Iran will also be a non- muslim nation with a small muslim minority population.
Hopefully the mullah crowd in Iran would also disappear from Iranian landscape after them appearing in the Iranian history only 500 years ago . Mullahs have always played a negative and destructive role in Iranian history. They were always considered "parasitic" entity and tools of foreign nations to impose their will on Iran. Invented 500 years ago by the Safavid shahs to control the population and later used by British to keep Iranian population from Progress..

We are scared they'd revert us if we drop the charade, the eastern two provinces will revert easy, cuz of cultural proximity to India......We have no foundation here other than running to Iran or turkey for cultural/ emotional/ financial support and sucking up to China. You understand this no? If we admit we are converts, then da game is up in two minutes. There's a lot at stake bro, 250 million people's lives and futures on da line.......you know right? US moves its benevolent hand and we'd fall on our faces, aass over head......yes, its like dat.

 

[Lulldapull]

We have always been pre-occupied with what India is and isn't while forgetting how we have to rebuild Pakistan. A fully blind is unlikely to get back vision by saying the neighbor has only one eye !

That's da package handed to us by the Brits......we are helpless!

 

[Old School]

That's da package handed to us by the Brits......we are helpless!

We have been bearing the Zia-ul-Haq package. There is no need to blame the British all the time; we would have become Afghan Jahil or Jahilistan if there had been no British. The Delhi/Mughal sultanate never built a single University in all 1000 years. Oxford University was built in 1096 AD. Can you imagine? The British built the oldest one in our country- the University of Punjab, Lahore in 1882. Hong Kong was a British colony too. They were already more advanced than mainland China before the re-unification.

 

[Aryobarzan]

Nationalism and love of country in an average man is always stronger than religion...Just to show you an example in front of our eyes...

This Nowruz (few days ago) despite widespread mullah efforts to kill this cultural occasion for the Iranian it produced revers effect..Visiting ruins of Iran's pre-islam kingdom capital (PERSPOIS) is in particular a very sensitive issue and mullahs try very hard to discourage this event..They even started talking about demolishing the ruins (just as Taliban did in Afghanistan) to show their hatred towards anything related to Iran's Pre-Islamic culture.

THIS IS HOW IRANIANS RESPONDED......millions are flocking to Persepolis as we speak ..this is a 5 kilometer car line up in the road to this magnificent site yesterday

 

[Aryobarzan]

LOL..cute Iranian girl.....Time to go back..


But crazy mullahs like their women ugly and covered like penguin..lol she is all yours..lol

Meanwhile Hamas guys are back in Iran for more money...Last year this time they were in Tehran and left with $150 million dollars stuffed in suitcases..This time your guess is a good as mine but they need to rebuild the 1/3 of Gaza that is left for them ..lots of tall apartments I guess. for the next round of destruction!..poor people of Iran have to foot the bill ..when are mullahs going to stop this madness.

 

[Lulldapull]

WTF? Jahil talibunny have access to Chabahar port:

 

[Old School]

LOL..cute Iranian girl.....Time to go back..


But crazy mullahs like their women ugly and covered like penguin..lol she is all yours..lol
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Meanwhile Hamas guys are back in Iran for more money...Last year this time they were in Tehran and left with $150 million dollars stuffed in suitcases..This time your guess is a good as mine but they need to rebuild the 1/3 of Gaza that is left for them ..lots of tall apartments I guess. for the next round of destruction!..poor people of Iran have to foot the bill ..when are mullahs going to stop this madness.
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The Palestinian movement has always been about raising funds like a business model. The Late Yasser Arafat raised about some multi-billion( with a B) dollars in the name of the Palestinian movement, kept in his private overseas accounts, and there was infighting between his widow and other Palestinian leaders over this money as if it was a private inheritance issue.

 

[Aryobarzan]

WTF? Jahil talibunny have access to Chabahar port:

Interesting to see an Afghan report..I can understand 99% of what he says (with some accent of course )..

Few points about this deal..
If I put everything together about Afghanistan..it appears a grand deal has happened between Afghani mullahs and Iani mullahs (call it Two Mullah deal..lol)...
Iran will take in 15 million Afghans to lighten up the population burden on Talib and help Afghans via remittance etc..in Return Talibs will re-route their commerce from Pakistan to Iran..that will directly affect Pak/China and Gwadar port so I be interested to know your take on this...did the alliance between Pakistan and Taliban totally lost now!!.