[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

[Vsdoc]

Now the reports are coming out of heavy damage to planes of Pakistan. 8 F16 destroyed. 4 down in air and 4 destroyed on ground.

Please share sources Krishna.

I have no doubt in my mind that their airforce was hit.

Their AWACS (the other one we hit and killed in the Bholari hangar) was flying circles in Iranian air.

That was the level of their fear.

And helplessness.

Its not just technology we brought to bear. It was intelligence.

Where. When. How many.

They now know there is no place in Pakistan they can successfully hide (and protect) any asset.

 

[Bilal9]

There's saturation attacks, effective, but its not like a golden chaabi that you don't need vs more sophisticated defences

Great comment, Counter-air ops and air-superiority ops are not either/or propositions. Both have their utility/place and both can be used in adjunct manner.

Please read the relevant USAF doctrine documents which discuss this. Then post comments.

https://www.doctrine.af.mil/Portals/61/documents/AFDP_3-01/3-01-AFDP-COUNTERAIR.pdf

https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861996/-1/-1/0/T_HOLMES_COUNTERAIR_COMPANION.PDF

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA404825.pdf

 

[Suresh Naresh]

UK nay banaya bhai.......Aur aaj bhee UK waalay he asal maalkaan hain hamaray (evidently).

Agent Gandhi.......007

Agent Jinnah.......008

Agent Nehru.......009

Sub ko pata hae........Lord Mountbatten k tuttay chaatt-tay thay teeno, din raat......

Kya lund legacy hae bhai.......

Subhaanallah no?

Jinnah ko agar agent kahega toh Pakistaniyo ko gussa nahi ayega kya?

 

[Lulldapull]

Jinnah ko agar agent kahega toh Pakistaniyo ko gussa nahi ayega kya?

Lord Mountbatten k ghulaam.......

You don't believe me?.......Doc say ya Sharma say cunnphurm ker lay bhai......

Kis nay bachaya aaj Pakistan ko? When India wanted to demolish us?

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Lord Mountbatten k ghulaam.......

You don't believe me?.......Doc say ya Sharma say cunnphurm ker lay bhai......

Kis nay bachaya aaj Pakistan ko? When India wanted to demolish us?

You didn't get my question. Try calling Jinnah an agent on the other forum. What would be Pakistani members' reaction?

 

[Mainerik]

@Paitoo uddin lekhak kahan hai aaj kal

aa ja bhai

You didn't get my question. Try calling Jinnah an agent on the other forum. What would be Pakistani members' reaction?

@Lulldapull explain yourself

 

[Lulldapull]

You didn't get my question. Try calling Jinnah an agent on the other forum. What would be Pakistani members' reaction?

When you need financial bailouts every 6 months, and now your army exposed as incompetent, and the civilian gubment can’t provide you security nor justice….

Do you understand?

Wes fukking done!

What Jinnah? Or Gandhi? Left to discuss?

Go face the wall and cry, like a colored child in a convent colonial school.

Hum Pakistani ghareebon key koi haysiyat bachee hae? Koi izzat baqi hae?

What planet you living on?

 

[Lulldapull]

Coming back to the topic:



Gents.......hamara band baja bajj gya hae peechhay say.......basically. Its not even funny anymore.

Ab Trump he day ga with UK/ EU chipping in toward a gradual rearmament process with lots of hand me downs/ used equipment.

I'd be surprised if we approach China for any weapons now and totally agree that it would take a decade for Pakistan to recover the losses from this short war.

 

[Lulldapull]

More on this total dismantling of our military:



Even if some of this is true, it paints a rather dire picture no?

India has totally gained ascendancy on Pakistan after this operation.

I just can't see the Pak military keeping its hold on the narrative, nor on the population much longer.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

US expert on Operation Sindoor.